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先有行动(thinker),是否有一个思维心(experiencer)

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树上的猴子饿了,就会产生摘果子充饥的本能冲动。先有果腹行动,然后才产生储存果子的念头。换一种说法,究竟是先有行动(action),还是先有造作心(actor)?如果没有行动(action),还会生出造作心(actor)吗?你明白吗?我们经常扪心自问:在我内心,是谁在看着眼前事物?是谁在观察万物?是否有一个思维心(thinker),与思想(thought)泾渭分明?是否有一个观察心(observer),与所观物(observed)判然分明?是否有一个体验心(experiencer),与体验(experience)黑白分明?是否有一个造作心(actor),与行为(action)前后分明?

但,如果真正细心、密切、智慧地省察自心,你会发现总是先产生本能行动(action);如果先预设目标再去行动,就有了造作心(actor)。你明白了吗?如果你预设了行动目标,为了达成目标,就会催生造作心(actor)。如果你思维清晰,没有偏见,不墨守成规,不想说服别人,不预设任何目标,那么这种当下思维(thinking)中没有内含思维心(thinker),唯有纯净思维。只有在思维中追逐目标时,你的“自我”才变得比思维更重要。也许你们有些人已经观察到这一点,这的确非常重要,值得去探索,因为我们可以从中明白怎样才有真正的行动。如果思维心(thinker)先行,那么这份执心(thinker)就变得比思维(thought)更重要,一切哲学、习俗与当代文明活动均基于这一假设之上。但如果思想(thought)是无心而萌发,那么这思想(thought)就比思维执心(thinker)更有价值。

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——克里希那穆提《生命书:365观心日课》(The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti)

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Thinking Without the Thinker

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The monkey in the tree feels hungry, and then the urge arises to take a fruit or a nut. Action comes first, and then the idea that you had better store it up. To put it in different words, does action come first, or the actor? Is there an actor without action? Do you understand? This is what we are always asking ourselves: Who is it that sees? Who is the watcher? Is the thinker apart from his thoughts, the observer apart from the observed, the experiencer apart from the experience, the actor apart from the action? …

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But if you really examine the process, very carefully, closely and intelligently, you will see that there is always action first, and that action with an end in view creates the actor. Do you follow? If action has an end in view, the gaining of that end brings about the actor. If you think very clearly and without prejudice, without conformity, without trying to convince somebody, without an end in view, in that very thinking there is no thinker—there is only the thinking. It is only when you seek an end in your thinking that you become important, and not thought. Perhaps some of you have observed this. It is really an important thing to find out, because from that we shall know how to act. If the thinker comes first, then the thinker is more important than thought, and all the philosophies, customs, and activities of the present civilization are based on this assumption; but if thought comes first then thought is more important than the thinker.

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